The Heisman Debate

The Heisman Trophy presentation is Saturday night and the finalists are Mark Ingram, Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow, Toby Gerhart and Ndamukong Suh. Jason and Matthew will debate who they think should win the Heisman. Joining them as a special guest in this blog will be Nick Carbonaro. His words will be in Blue.

I feel that the award should go to Stanford's Toby Gerhart. Not only does he lead the nation in Carries,Yards and Touchdowns, he's also averaging over 5.5 yards per carry. The numbers don't lie and Toby Gerhart should be striking the pose Saturday evening.

In my opinion all of the candidates are worthy of a shot at the Heisman but the one who stands out the most for me is Mark Ingram. I think what is special about this award is that it also factors in how players perform on the big stage. Unlike the other candidates, Ingram stepped up in a huge game against Florida when most of the nation expected Florida to handle the Crimson Tide. Ingram scored 3 touchdowns and seemed like a man among boys. When you also throw in the fact that he is only a sophomore it makes his performance even more impressive. He's had a solid year the whole way through playing for the top team in the nation this year. For these reasons, he is my Heisman winner.

I'll agree with you that Ingram did well when it counted, but so did Gerhart. Against USC, when they were ranked #9, Gerhart ran for over 175 yards and three touchdowns. Nobody saw that coming. Against Notre Shame he ran for over 200 yards and three scores. Ok, maybe that isn't the best argument, but it was a primetime, Nationally Televised game. I see where you're coming from with Ingram but Gerhart accounted for 14.5 points per game while Ingram only accounted for 10.8 (Which is less than BG's Freddie Barnes who got screwed out of the Biletnikoff). At least we both agree that Tim Tebow is NOT the winner.

I think that Suh should win the Heisman based on the fact that he has been the most dominant player at his position and on his team all year. Arguments can be made about each of the other four finalists as well. Ingram had a great game in his biggest game, but had just average games in other huge games, even going out injured against Auburn and having his backup run for 125 and TD, showing maybe its the offensive line, not Ingram. Gerhart has also been dominate, but also had some down games, 86 in a loss at Wake Forest and 92 in a loss at Oregon State. I am not saying either of these guys should not win the Heisman, I am saying they are too close and to similar to separate and one does not dominate the other like Reggie Bush (as much as I hate him) dominated all other RB's the year he won (Vince Young should have won). Suh has disrupted teams since day one and even in losses has been unblockable. For a DT to have 12 sacks and 82 Tackles is Warren Sapp like (not Oakland Sapp more like Thug U Sapp, who also was the last DT to finish in top 5 of Heisman voting). Suh dominated on the biggest stage with 4.5 sacks of McCoy in the Big XII Title Game. The QB's are just there to be there. McCoy had a shot but didn't play well in Texas' biggest games (Okla - Nebraska). Tebow has one and does not need his ego inflated any more. Suh is my pick for the domination and things I saw when I watched not only the Big XII Title Game but also the Cornhuskers game against Mizzou. In the game against Virginia Tech, he just ate up two to three blockers at a time, and never was there any doubt who the best player on the field was each game. Give it to a boy named Suh.

I just can't go for Suh who is five sacks behind the leader in sacks. And I realize he's not expected to get a ton of tackles but he only had 82 on the year and almost half of them were assisted. If he was leading the nation in sacks and had his team in a position to win a championship I could see him getting it more.

He jumps off the game film as a standout, a player who creates and makes his team better. Nebraska is not a top 15 Defense without him...Alabama could be a top 15 rushing Offense without Ingram and Stanford the same without Gerhart, both have very capable freshman behind them who played great this season.

I think these are all good statements and perhaps true, however, history shows that there's no way a DT will win the award. I think that the fact that Nebraska's defense fell short at the end of that game and lost will also seal his fate. The best player on the best team usually gets the award. With that said it's going to come down to McCoy and Ingram. I think this is one of the rare years where no matter who wins you could make a legitimate argument for that player. (Except for maybe Tebow because anyone who cries after a loss is immediately disqualified in my eyes.)

So there you have it. Plenty of different views from three different people. Is one of them right? Are all of them wrong? I guess we'll just have to wait and see!

LeBron James 2010: Cleveland? NYC? LA???

This week Jason and I will discuss the impending Free Agency of LeBron James. Here's what Jason had to say...

So I've been hearing all this talk about LeBron James being a free agent at the end of the season and all the speculation about where he might go. Will it be with Kobe and the Lakers? Will it be the Big Apple? I've even heard Chicago mentioned once. Listen...he's not leaving. At least not yet. Why would he? LeBron is a business man and it is smart for him to not take Cleveland's preliminary offer because it gives him leverage, a chance to be treated like royalty all summer (not like he isn't pampered already). But that leads to my next point, Cleveland treats him like he walks on water. Dan Gilbert can offer him the MAX contract and right now Cleveland is his best chance to cement his legacy with a true title. He won't go to New York because they are terrible, even if they get Dwyane Wade they are still not going to be an elite team. He won't go to the Lakers because that is Kobe's team and, as unselfish as LeBron is, he will want to be the man. Chicago is just ridiculous. Plain and simple he will re-sign the maximum contract with Cleveland for about 2 or 3 years. If they don't win in that time frame he will leave but not until then. He loves the area, he loves the royalty treatment and he wants to win. Those three factors equal him staying. Cleveland fans and even the media will portray it as "This always happens to Cleveland" in terms of him leaving but I honestly believe this is totally different because we actually have an owner who has a ton of money and cares. We've only ever had one or the other in the past with our pro sports teams owners. Dick Jacobs was probably the best sports owner we've had here in the last 20 years. He spent what he could but his budget was not that of a Steinbrenner. Gilbert could very well be the most passionate, intelligent, and championship hungry owners in the NBA. He knows his franchise is worth nothing without King James. He will do whatever it takes to keep him here. Trust me...

I do trust you Jason, I really do. LeBron James will be a Cleveland Cavalier for at LEAST 2 more seasons. I think what frustrates me most about the whole situation is the fact that no one thinks that LeBron can win in Cleveland. Why? Because of our history? Ever since LeBron got here things have been looking up for Cleveland. The Cavs have gotten better each year, the Indians almost made it to the World Series and the Browns...well, let's just stop at "the Indians almost made it to the World Series." Anyways, back to the point, I think it is absolutely wrong to think that Cleveland can't attract another big star to help LeBron. Last night, during the game against Miami, I believe it was Reggie Miller that said "How about Wade and LeBron playing together in Cleveland?" and someone replied that there was no chance of that at all. Why not? If Dan Gilbert wants to spend the coin to make Cleveland a powerhouse, why wouldn't players do it? As much as the city of Cleveland has been down, it is starting to rise again and Dan Gilbert is a big reason for it. The city of Cleveland earns about One Million Dollars every time the Cavs play a home game. Ohio just passed an Issue to bring Casinos into Cleveland and Dan Gilbert is going to run one of them. Cleveland is a city that is getting ready to rise from the ashes and a Championship in ANY sport will be one of the steps that helps. The Cavs give LeBron the best chance to win AND be the man running the show. And as for another star coming to Cleveland, I think we could see that happen near the trading deadline.

I did hear that comment from Reggie Miller and the response. It further makes me believe that sports journalism has gone the way of rumor central. It's no fun for them to speculate that small market teams could be big time contenders. Now I don't think Wade would go to Cleveland but it's not beyond possibility that Cleveland could attract another big name. I think people ignore what Gilbert is doing simply because it's never been done here before. Gilbert is definitely a strong asset to this area for all the reasons you list and we should have faith in what he can accomplish. He won't let us down without a fight, which is more than we can say about the other "owners" of this city.

Exactly. Dolan and Lerner don't know anything about the sports in which they own a team. They just don't get it. Lerner seems like he's starting to get it but we'll have to wait and see. I know that Cleveland doesn't have the Billions that a New York or an LA has but to dub us a "Small Market" is a little off, I think. We have owner's with big bucks...don't let the Indians payroll fool you...and two of them (Gilbert and Lerner) are willing to spend it. Lerner just needs to learn how to spend it properly. I do believe that I will see a World Series Championship, an NBA Championship and a Super Bowl Title in my lifetime. I'm not saying I won't be on my death bed when it happens, but it WILL happen.

Heads or Tails Debates: College Bowl-ing

Welcome to Heads or Tails Debates. Our first topic in this new blog will be the College Football Bowl Game situation. Everything that Matthew writes will be in Orange while everything Jason writes will be in Brown. We hope you enjoy or takes!

I think it is definitely time for Division 1-A, or whatever you want to call it, to go to a playoff system rather than having one single bowl game and a flawed ranking system decide College Football's National Championship. The BCS is a monopoly that punishes schools who are not in one of the, so-called, elite conferences. Last time I saw, Boise State had beaten a few of the teams from the "elite" conferences.

It is ridiculous that Division 1-A football does not have a playoff system not just because of the flawed rankings but also because of the lost revenue. It's commonly said that they will not change because of sponsor commitments and bowl game traditions. Well here's an idea I came up with when I was about 12 years old. Have 12 teams make the playoffs. Hold each round in a neutral location (bowl game spots with bowl game sponsors). People will say "the fans won't travel" or "you'll lose attendance." Not true. The NCAA basketball tourney does the same thing and they have been running strong for years. Most bowl games are played in warm weather areas so you could alternate locations but still keep them near to each proceeding round. Fans (especially student fans) will travel regardless. If this is flawed then fine change it but I say at least give it a try, it can't be worse than what we have now. Also, this helps teams like Boise State because now big schools won't shy away from playing them for fear of losing points in the BCS rankings. Seems we both agree on this one...CHANGE THE SYSTEM!

I do agree with you on most of what you're saying. The first thing I disagree with is your 12 team theory. Why so few? That gives some teams byes in the first round. Nobody in basketball gets a bye. Also, that would be only five bowl games. That's exactly what the BCS already offers. I don't know about fan travel either. Yeah, your die hard fans will get to all the games but do you really think the students would be able to afford to go to six bowl games? I don't see this as very likely. But the stadiums will be full no matter what. Either way, the ranking system needs to be changed. How did Boise not pass TCU in the rankings after the Oregon team they beat throttled USC? The computers aren't as smart as we think they are.

Well there are numerous options that could be used that would be better than BCS. Even playing games at home stadiums is better. My thought on 12 is there usually aren't more than that many teams that are considered "championship calibur" so it cuts down on time. Part of the issue is the time between the end of the regular season and the start of the bowls is finals time. Officials say that a playoff would take too long.